Powers & Abilities - Oden and Kaido surpassed Whitbeard and Roger, full analysis

So my thread about Kaido was received better than I thought it would, so now you are ready to a very harsh truth, it pains me to say it but all the evidence points at one direction which is that "Oden and Kaido surpassed Whitbeard and Roger in terms of strength" and I now it's bad, it's really

Ok, let's settle this question, is Kaido's top 5 a valid powerscaling argument or was it just his biased point of view : r/OnePiecePowerScaling

Who is stronger, Kaido or Shanks? How do they compare with Whitebeard and Roger/Gold Roger? - Quora

Kozuki Oden, VS Battles Wiki

How strong was Roger compared to Whitebeard and Shanks? - Quora

Oden is Yonkou level. Kaido standards for what he sees as a true 1 v 1 going toe to toe is really High, only Yonkou level strength fighters can 1 v 1

Powers & Abilities - Oden and Kaido surpassed Whitbeard and Roger, full analysis, Page 17

Roger with Kaidou's fruit vs Whitebeard. Who wins and what diff? : r/OnePiecePowerScaling

Powers & Abilities - Oden and Kaido surpassed Whitbeard and Roger, full analysis, Page 16

Common consensus seems to be, that when Kaido fought Oden 20 years back he wasn't in his prime, and is weaker than he is now. Given this pertains to the somewhat controversial

Was Oden as strong as Kaido when he was alive? - Quora

Powers & Abilities - Oden and Kaido surpassed Whitbeard and Roger, full analysis

Who is stronger, Kaido or Shanks? How do they compare with Whitebeard and Roger/Gold Roger? - Quora

Edward Newgate (Whitebeard), VS Battles Wiki